Friday, April 18, 2008

Masturbation

Is masturbation wrong? Why or Why not. Do you do it?? Please answer anonymously!

31 comments:

miguel said...

this is wrong if you use IMAGES,VIDEO, MEMORIES, FANTASIES, etc of somebody not your spouse.

why? i believe when you achieve erection, then ejaculation with one you're not married to, i think you're lusting, and therefore are guilty of sin.

of course, you can achieve lust without masturbation.
I'LL COMMENT FURTHER AFTER somebody else addresses this. thanks

Anonymous said...

No, masturbation is not wrong! If you are married then yes it can be wrong. If you are away (like a different city or state)from your spouse and find yourself feeling frisky, then yes relieve yourself with memories of your spouse or give them a call and talk to your loved one!

People do view masturbation as purverted and disgusting but there are sometimes when a person just needs to releive themselves instead of the alternative. Instead of masturbating they could go out and make a booty call or pick up a prostitute and catch a STD or HIV! I would rather stay at home and look at images and reflect on memories or fantasies and masturbate than catch an STD! I know that is sinning but man at least my member stays clean!!! Don't tell me people don't fantasize about things of that nature. We are all guilty of that! People do change though! I am guilty!...so that answers your last question!!!

This topic is a hard one...no pun intended! You can go both ways on this subject so I really think it just depends on the situation or if you are just sicko who is a sexaholic and thinks about sex all day long. If you do it, do it privacy and not in public.....Pee WEE Herman!!!

Honestly JB

miguel said...

the question of right and wrong can also hinge on conscience. if i think its wrong, then for me, it is sin.
i agree going outside the marriage bed with a booty call, or prostitute is definitely sin.
i guess the real issue may be ,DO i RELY and TRUST in GOD's provision of the marriage bed?
let me explain, after fighting the losing battle with porn for so many years(17), i came to view masturbation as porn's sidekick. they went hand in hand,(oops, i guess i could've used different wording).
being porn free, i realize the desire, sometimes intense desire to gratify myself waned as time went by. even with a very healthy dose of satisfying sex (VERY SATISFYING if my bride reads this), i still craved the desire to release.
today, however, the desire only intensifies when i choose to not look away, or when i linger longer than i should at the female anatomy. embarrasing to confess this, but it happens.
i can't channel surf either, i tend to catch images that feed my desire to release. i must starve it. of course, i can only speak as a married man. being single, well that is an arena i have no memory of.

Anonymous said...

I was just wondering! Are people scared to talk about this issue! Don't worry about politically correct! Just speak your mind and let the words flow! To be heard you have to raise up and speak!!!

I will reply and discuss anything. Love the blogs and the site!

Honestly JB

Anonymous said...

I truly believe that masturbation is not wrong. I have done it and still do it during the "dry times" Being married with children, it is sometimes hard "not that way" to find time alone to get down and dirty. So when the feeling arises I feel that as a man you have to have some release. If not then the more you wait the more likely you will turn to porn, or gazing at a women to long. I know that during the dry times if I wait too long to take care of myself then I might start lusting after another women. When I do that then I have entered into sin. Thsi is a place I can not afford to go.
So to sum this up I have noticed that the longer I am married the less i think about masturbating, BUT there are times when I do do it, but I think about the times with my wife and not of some other girl...frb

Anonymous said...

according to my wife it is wrong. but in my sex life in the past it was almost a neccesity. a lack of sexual intamicy left me little other choice. i myself believe it is an altenitive only when needed not for recreation.

Anonymous said...

Well I am single and don't look to marry anytime soon but I believe the lusting whether to a picture or a person is still committing sin. The Bible says it is better for a man to be single but if he lusts then he should marry. (Summed up not the exact words of the Bible)

miguel said...

to the last anonymous, do you do it or don't you?
c'mon, you are signed in as anonymous.

as for me , yeah i've done it.
haven't lately. when i do the deed, i choose to use some dynamic memories of hot moments with my bride to speed the process.(just in case she reads this one too.)

p.s. my name is miguel.

miguel said...

by the way, i do consider myself a heterosexual pervert.

on a separate note, my bride has penis envy. she said she could stand up and she could write in the snow.

sorry for the bonus coverage.

miguel said...

hey guys or girls or whoever you are, do you think we can just focus on masturbation and not these rabbit trails?
perhaps we can discuss penis size on a future blog.

Anonymous said...

no way .
masturbation is wrong.
lust is wrong.

miguel said...

i agree lust is wrong.
but we're talking about jacking, not lusting.
although i believe the more triggers for lust you allow in your daily life , the stronger the urge to release.

Anonymous said...

As a disclaimers, I will begin by saying first of all, I am a single virgin female, so I cannot possibly truly understand the urge satisfy my penis and have yet to enjoy sex. However, as a woman, I have also felt "urges" that I have chosen not to satisfy. I make the choice not to masturbate because of what I have read, and I am still reading into it. Although the Christian literature is on the fence on this topic, what I have read that seems to be most consistent with Scripture is that masturbation is wrong. After reading the book series "Every Man's Battle," I came to a better understanding of the physiological processes of a man's need to "release" that often results in the commonly misconceived "wet dreams." Even "Every Woman's Battle" addresses the masturbation issue, and it can be avoided! Basically, what I'm trying to say is that my reasoning for believing masturbation is wrong is that 1) it's not necessary; 2) it's a way for an individual to meet their needs that a significant other should help them fulfill. If you're single and you masturbate, then you're developing a habit of satisfying yourself, and a marriage partner's touch may never prove to be adequate. If you're married and you masturbate, how disheartening for that spouse to know that they "couldn't quite cut it" for you!

Anonymous said...

seeing how this is such a hot topic let me ask this what does this or any of the othr blogs have to do with a person finding out about God? is God really worried about wether or not I masturbate?
I cannot see what this question has do do with what you call a legitimate search for a person struggling with a lot more than jerking off.
Tribalinc, you say you are teaching men how to get closer to God, that's what I was looking for when i found this sight. Not this crud you are talking about.
Is this what you call a fingerprint? Give me something i can sink my teeth into.

frodo said...

As a member of this website I would agree that this blog topic has gotten out of control. this is a subject that is and will always be divided so i ask that if you are reading this to give us a legitament subject you would like to discuss. please enter on the fingerprints blog. thankyou to all who checking out this website. our intention is not to discourage but to encourage a personal relationship with Christ.

miguel said...

fair question, anonymous.
is God worried about whether you masturbate or not. perhaps the thing you'd like to sink your teeth into, lies in the motives behind our actions.
i believe God demands and desires holiness in our daily lives. in the small things, and in the larger things.
if you poll men concerning what is their greatest struggle in life...
i believe you'd find the OVERWHELMING ANSWER DEALS WITH SEXUAL SIN. masturbation often is mixed in with sexual immorality.

if you're looking to get closer to GOD... THEN I SAY OUTSTANDING.
I would definitely hope our site can assist you . in fact if you'd like, you may email me at samwise@tribalinc.org to continue this conversation in a more discreet arena.
our mission is to see men move from defeat to day-to-day victories.
from addictions to freedom. and from empathy to a passion that pleases the one who died, was buried ,and rose again, my Hero, my Liberator, my friend Jesus Christ.

thanksgiving for blogging with us.

Anonymous said...

Doug Weiss has a DVD called Shepherding your Sons that
addresses the masturbation issue.

He doesn't believe in it but lets fathers know how they can shepherd
their sons on the topic. He says if the fathers start talking to their sons in junior high and have this conversation once a month until the son gets married, the wife will love the father-in-law.

Basically, Doug says if there is a need then he says as long as the
person stays connected to their body and does not fantasize and it is only done once or twice a week, it is acceptable.

He also says that we have men who have grown up masturbating the right way and are sexually pure and we have men who have grown up masturbating the wrong way and are sexually impure. The men who are
sexually pure are authors, teachers, pastors, etc and when they say it is okay we have the other half who are sexually impure believing it is okay and neither
side knows what the other defines as masturbation.
Anyway, the website blog was interesting.

Anonymous said...

frodo here,
what do you mean feel trapped? if you dont feel guilty then why do you feel trapped?

Anonymous said...

trapped cuz i sometimes wish i didn't but i know i'm gonna do it again.
and again.
and again.
understand?

Anonymous said...

frodo here,
I am confused you say that you do not feel it is wrong, correct? therefore how could you feel trapped. trapped by something has a negative effect. therefore you can not have both. You either thinks its ok or you are trying to justify you reason for doing it. I understand that it seems normal and a part of natural release. But as this blog has been going on i feel that there is a spirtual application to this process. The animal kingdom mates for one reason, reproduction. humans are the only species that has sex for other reasons, mainly enjoyment. society has taking the excitement out of having the intimacy out of it. sex is as common around us as the air we breathe. I don't think God intended for it to be use but for increasing population and for oneness with your lifetime mate. you are never as close to your spouse as when you are intamite. therefore i think that masturbation is not a form of release but in fact sin. When tou are alone and not with your mate.
FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE READ THIS BLOG. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE REFERED TO AS A FINGERPRINT. GOD HAS CHANGE MY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS SUBECT. BEFORE I WAS PRETTY OK WITH MASTERBATING AS A FORM OF RELEASE IN THOSE DRY PERIODS. NO LONGER DO I THINK THAT. PRAISE HIM!

miguel said...

it's been over a year since this was FIRST POSTED.
funny how the "M" word still comes up in conversation.
my son, elijah, after attending sunday school, asked me what MASTURBATION was.
i reminded him that we had already discussed this.
so ... he and i revisited the conversation.
DADS, YOU MUST BE WILLING TO TEACH AND TRAIN YOUR KIDDOS IN THE ARENA OF SEX.
we must be make it as comfortable as possible, as we DEFINE THE BOUNDARIES.

miguel said...

the subject came up again.
this time i was talking with a friend. funny how easy we make jokes about this.
wonder if we feel this takes the awkwardness away...

i have a question for ya?
is it called masturbation if YOU DON'T RELEASE AND EJACULATE?
this question came up in the same conversation.
so whatdoyouthink?

Anonymous said...

masturbation... until recently, this day and generation, it has been a word that has been kept in the dark away from the ears of the morally upright. Then comes liberalism and the sexual revolution, turning what was kept in the bedroom and in man's fantasies, placing it on display and encouraging "freedom" from the sexual legalist: the church. I know that for me, masturbation is used as a medication. A drug of choice. An escape for me, by me and only me. It is a selfish act that involves all of my senses to be engaged in myself... how can this be right?

I can't picture Jesus masturbating. So maybe the question I should be asking is would I want Him catching me in this act? ... the lust of myself is lust none the less...

Anonymous said...

what has the tribe come to talking about this stuff? how does it look to others thats not part of the tribe?

miguel said...

how does it look is a terrific question.
i am not sure.
i guess my focus is dealing with those who struggle with this, AND not so much with how it looks to those outside thetribe.
i wish we were talking about some other problem, BUT we're not.
we're discussing MASTURBATION, and sadly, but too often true, MASTURBATION GOES HAND IN HAND WITH PORN.
to those OUTside thetribe, if this topic offends ya, I APOLOGIZE.
this certainly is NOT our intent.
the purpose is open the conversation about the elephant in the room that has a huge part in the decay of the family.
Masturbation in itself, does NOT rot the family, but it helps facilitate the problem of PORN.
OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

Anonymous said...

Isn't this blog titled "Masturbation"? There are other blogs that someone who doesn't enjoy this topic can participate in, true? But for those whose struggle with the insatiable desire to look at porn WILL masturbate. Scripture does not cover masturbation; it is a gray area. But it does cover lust, it does cover objectification, it does cover escapism, it does cover greed, it does cover the importance of self-discipline, of love for others more than ourselves and the battle between the spiritual and the flesh, it does cover boundaries set up by the Creator of our bodies to be set up for one thing: the marriage bewtween Him alone, or the marriage between a man and a wife. Neither of those constitute the use of masturbation.

miguel said...

Anonymous, yes this is titled "masurbation". And yes it a topic that scripture doesn't zero in on. And you are correct about the other topics that scriture Does address. I guess I am confused about the intent of your comment. Could you please clarify ? I don't wanna miss a thing. On a side note, we do Offer a wide range of Other topics. You can search these in our archives. Thanksgiving for participating & for furthering the conversation, or as I prefer, the Dia-blog.

Anonymous said...

samwise,

My intent was this: we cannot keep silent about the horrible things that plague the body of Christ. Can we have a spiritual, theologically sound discussion on masturbation? Yes! Can we also have a useless dia-blog on masturbation as well? Yes! When I mentioned that there are other blogs for those who are sensitive to this subject, I was hinting that they are a click away from this subject if needed. But for those, like me, who want to battle the fallacy of an unseen enemies tactics (one, I believe is masturbation) then let's reason together... don't stifle progress, no matter how messy it gets. But to further clarify, do we need the word masturbation imbedded into every sentence when dia-blogging? No, of course not, that is why I mentioned all the other things that we can speak of, those things deep within the sinful heart of man that contribute to this acting out, inwhich scripture does clearly speak out on.

GNP!

miguel said...

just found this video detailing how a girl became introduced to "M"
MORE IMPORTANTLY, how she became an ex-masturbator.

really good story.
amazing vulnerability.
the more words we use, i really believe the more we remove chunks out of the wall that we built to keep GOD out.

so just copy and paste

http://www.mydailychristianlife.com/2009/04/dameco-breaks-silence.html?showComment=1243533955049#c7364345067128625311

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